Carmen Wreck
| Field | Value |
|---|---|
| Wreck Category | dangerous wreck |
|
Carmen Wreck Location Marine Coordinates (DMM) |
51 8.331 N,1 36.317 E |
| Latitude, Longitude Decimal Degrees |
|
| Wreck Depth | 25.5 m |
| Water Depth | 44 m |
| Water Level Effect | always under water/submerged |
| Vertical Datum | Approximate Lowest Astronomical Tide |
| Name | CARMEN |
| Type | steam ship |
| Flag | PA |
| Length | 112.8 m |
| Width | 16.2 m |
| Sonar Length | 125 |
| Sonar Width | 22 |
| Shadow Height | 18.7 |
| Orientation | 6 |
| Tonnage | 4240 |
| Tonnage Type | gross |
| Cargo | bauxite |
| Conspic Visual | not visually conspicuous |
| Conspic Radar | not radar conspicuous |
| Date Sunk | Jun 13, 1963 |
| Bottom Texture | Sand |
| Debris Field | 0340.0,225 |
| Original Detection Year | 1963 |
| Last Detection Year | 2006 |
| Original Source | other |
| Surveying Details | H2409/63 29.9.64 WK IN 510820N, 013620E. LEAST E/S DEPTH 43 IN GEN DEPTH 150FT [LWST]. (THV READY, 13.6.63). CHART AS WK 7FMS 1FT, MARKED BY G SPH LT BUOY, INTQKFLG.10S CLOSE W. - NM 1364/63. H2409/63 29.9.64 CONTRACT PLACED FOR DISPERSAL OF WK TO 60FT [MLWS]. (TH, 21.9.64). NCA. H2409/63 5.8.65 WK DISPERSED. CLEAR AT 75FT [MLWS]. (CSJH HARWICH, 07/1120). AMEND TO WK 12FMS. - NM 1520/65. H835/66 18.4.66 WK IN 510818N, 013621E. LEAST E/S DEPTH 112 IN GEN DEPTH 146FT. GOOD SONAR CONTACT. (HMS MYRMIDON, 1965) H6738/68 28.1.68 EXAM'D BY DIVERS. WK UPRIGHT WITH HIGHEST POINT BEING TWO SAMSON POSTS FORWARD OF BRIDGE. FOR'D PART OF WK BROKEN ON THE PORT SIDE. AFTER SUPERSTRUCTURE COLLAPSED. FIXED BY DECCA. LENGTH 120MTRS, WIDTH 20MTRS. STANDS 15MTRS HIGH ON SEABED. (NETHERLANDS SURVEY, DOVER STRAIT 9/68). AMEND TO WK 17FMS. - NM 277/69. H4667/70 1.1.70 LOCATED IN 510824N, 013620E [EUR] USING HIFIX. DRIFT SWEPT CLEAR AT 25.3MTRS [83FT], FOUL AT 25.6MTRS [84FT]. LEAST E/S DEPTH 25.6 IN GEN DEPTH 45MTRS. SCOUR DEPTH 46MTRS. LIES 010/190DEGS. LENGTH APPROX 120MTRS. (HMS BEAGLE, H525). AMEND TO SW 13FMS 5FT. - NM 113/71. H1928/71 27.1.71 PROVIDES GOOD SONAR CONTACT FROM NW. NO FURTHER DETAILS. (HMS BEAGLE, 31.12.70). H2350/85 8.1.86 EXAM'D 13.8.86 IN 510817N, 013626E USING TRISPONDER RANGES. LEAST E/S DEPTH 27.2 IN GEN DEPTH 43MTRS. NO SCOUR. DCS3 HT NOT OBTAINED. APPROX 110MTRS LONG & LYING 010/190DEGS. LARGE MAGNETIC ANOMALY. RECOMMEND RETAIN SWEPT DEPTH. (NP 1016, HI 317A). AMEND TO REVISED POSN. BR STD. H3850/86 21.11.88 EXAM'D 16.9.88 USING HYDROSEARCH. FIXED BY DECCA. LEAST E/S DEPTH 36MTRS [UNCORRECTED FOR TIDE]. EST HEIGHT 17.1MTRS. LIES 010/190DEGS. LENGTH 200MTRS, WIDTH 33MTRS. UPRIGHT WITH APPARENTLY A MAST PROTRUDING FROM CENTRE SUPERSTRUCTURE WHICH WAS NOT HEIGHTED. RECOMMEND RETAIN AS CHARTED. (HMS ROEBUCK, HI 369). HH226/420/02 18.5.94 LEAST E/S DEPTH 27.0MTRS. (HMS BEAGLE, HN 25.4.94). NCA. HH090/611/01 26.1.95 SWEPT 2 & 6.10.94 IN 510820.3N, 013620.3E [WGD] USING DGPS. SWEPT CLEAR AT 25.9, FOUL AT 26.3MTRS. LEAST E/S DEPTH 27.0 IN GEN DEPTH 44MTRS. (HMS BEAGLE, HI 611). SWEEP NOT COMPLETE, RETAIN SW 25.0MTRS. HH090/681/01 21.9.95 EXAM'D 21.6.95 IN 510820.3N, 013620.3E [WGD] USING DGPS. SWEPT CLEAR AT 25.6, FOUL AT 25.9MTRS. LEAST E/S DEPTH 27 IN GEN DEPTH 44MTRS. NO SCOUR. LENGTH 180MTRS. LIES 010/190 DEGS. (HMS BEAGLE, HI 681). AMEND TO SW 25.5MTRS IN REVISED POSN. BR STD. HH091/159/01 6.9.07 EXAM'D 3.10.06 IN 5108.331N, 0136.317E [WGD] USING DGPS. LEAST M/B DEPTH 20.10 IN GEN DEPTH 44.4MTRS. LENGTH 125MTRS, WIDTH 22MTRS, HT 18.7MTRS. LIES 006/186 DEGS WITH BOWS N. MODERATE MAGNETIC ANOMALY. ?DEBRIS LIES 340MTRS SW. (OSAE, HI 1159). INTACT, UPRIGHT. RETAIN SW 25.5MTRS IN REVISED POSN. BR STD. |
| Last Amended Date | Jul 18, 2007 |
Circumstances of loss
EX-IRON CHIEF '35, EX-STAGPOOL '50, EX-GRANNY SUZZANNE '54. BUILT IN 1930 BY W DOXFORD & SONS LTD, SUNDERLAND. OWNED AT TIME OF LOSS BY CIA DE NAV SAN TOCCO SA. THREE BOILERS, TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE, SINGLE SHAFT. PASSAGE TAKORADI FOR BURNTISLAND. SANK FOLLOWING COLLISION WITH TURKISH SS SADIKZADE IN THICK FOG. CREW RECOVERED. (SIBI).
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- G-42 (Possibly) Wreck 1753.9 M
- Other Wreck 48265 2427.1 M
- Uc 46 Wreck 2802 M
- Sambut Wreck 2952.9 M
- Hms Nubian (Bow Section) Wreck 3268.9 M
- Other Wreck 7674 3332.8 M
- Mtb 218 Wreck 3395.8 M
- Hosanna Wreck 3573.6 M
- Andaman Wreck 3576.2 M
General Comments
INTACT, UPRIGHT, BOWS S