Hms Commandant (Possibly) Wreck
| Field | Value |
|---|---|
| Wreck Category | dangerous wreck |
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Hms commandant (possibly) Wreck Location Marine Coordinates (DMM) |
51 52.192 N,1 35.469 E |
| Latitude, Longitude Decimal Degrees |
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| Wreck Depth | 18.77 m |
| Water Depth | 20 m |
| Water Level Effect | always under water/submerged |
| Vertical Datum | Approximate Lowest Astronomical Tide |
| Name | HMS COMMANDANT (POSSIBLY) |
| Type | trawler |
| Flag | GB |
| Length | 36.2 m |
| Width | 6.7 m |
| Draught | 3.6 |
| Sonar Length | 6.63 |
| Sonar Width | 5.86 |
| Shadow Height | 1.9 |
| Orientation | 24 |
| Tonnage | 207 |
| Tonnage Type | gross |
| Conspic Visual | not visually conspicuous |
| Conspic Radar | not radar conspicuous |
| Date Sunk | Apr 2, 1916 |
| Bottom Texture | Sand |
| Scour Dimensions | 025.0,008.0,000.8,052 |
| Debris Field | MINOR ITEMS LIE CLOSE W & NW |
| Original Detection Year | 1926 |
| Last Detection Year | 2025 |
| Original Source | other |
| Surveying Details | H3085/26 CONFIRMS LOSS & GIVES DETAILS OF SINKING. H6345/26 14.11.26 INS AS NDW (1916). BR STD. H6391/19 AMEND TO WK 32FT. H5676/32 11.8.32 DISPERSAL OPERATIONS IN PROGRESS. - NM 1318(T)/32. H5676/32 22.9.32 DISPERSAL COMPLETED. (TH LETTER). AMEND TO WK 8FMS. H2134/70 25.2.70 NOT LOCATED USING TRANSIT SONAR WITHIN 5 CABLES RADIUS. (HMS ECHO, HI 1/69). AMEND TO FOUL. BR STD. H3186/73 7.5.73 EXAM'D IN 515223N, 013603E [OGB] USING HIFIX [2 LOP]. LEAST E/S DEPTH 17.1MTRS IN GEN DEPTH 18.1MTRS. (HMS ENTERPRISE). H3186/73 11.5.73 LIES 120/300 DEGS. LENGTH 150FT. (HMS NURTON, 30.3.73). CHART AS FOUL. H4358/74 18.2.76 NOT LOCATED. (HMS ECHO, HI 12/75). H4726/77 23.3.79 NOT FOUND DURING INTENSIVE SEARCH OF AREA. (HMS ENTERPRISE, ROS DTD 4.12.78). H1955/80 23.3.82 NOT FOUND DURING AREA SEARCH. (SOISS, HI 25). DELETED. BR STD. H2913/83 18.10.84 NOT FOUND. (HMS ECHO, HI 192). H4024/86 18.2.88 WK EXAM'D 28.8.87 IN 515210N, 013535E [OGB] USING TRISPONDER [4 LOP]. LEAST E/S DEPTH 18.6 IN GEN DEPTH 20.5MTRS. NO SCOUR. APPEARS AS 40 X 10MTRS AREA OF DIFFUSE SONAR CONTACTS WHICH GIVE NO SHADOW, BUT ARE CLEARLY SEEN ON E/S. SANDWAVES IN VICINITY ARE SHOALER. MAY BE WOODEN AS MAGNETOMETER SHOWS IRON CONTENT OF LESS THAN 1 TONNE. (NP 1016, HI 373). INS AS WK 18.6MTRS. BR STD. H6335/87 12.7.88 EXAM'D 3.6.88 IN 515209N, 013534E [OGB] USING TRISPONDER [5 LOP]. LEAST E/S DEPTH 19.5 IN GEN DEPTH 21 - 21.5MTRS. NO SCOUR. DCS3 HT 2.5MTRS. APPEARS TO BE SCATTERED WRECKAGE LYING BETWEEN 2 SANDWAVES, BOTH MUCH SHOALER. NO MAG ANOMALY. (NP 1016, HI 418). NCA. H3933/88 19.9.89 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. (NP 1016, HI 455). NCA. HH090/494/01 23.8.90 EXAM'D 29.6.90 IN 515210N, 013534E [OGB] USING TRISPONDER [7 LOP]. LEAST E/S DEPTH 18.8 IN GEN DEPTH 21.5MTRS. NO SCOUR. NO DCS3 SHADOW OBTAINED. SONAR LENGTH 35MTRS, WIDTH 20MTRS. BROKEN UP WRECKAGE APPARENTLY PARTIALLY COVERED WITH SAND. MAG ANOMALY OBSERVED. RETAIN AS CHARTED. (NP 1016, HI 494). NCA. HH090/515/01 12.11.91 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. GEN DEPTH NOW 17MTRS. (NP 1016, HI 515). HH090/573/01 29.9.93 NOT LOCATED. GEN DEPTH NOW 16.8MTRS. (NP 1016, HI 573). AMEND TO FOUL. BR STD. HH090/625/01 23.5.94 LOCATED BY MAGNETOMETER ONLY. GEN DEPTH NOW 18MTRS. (NP 1016, HI 625). HH090/653/01 10.8.95 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. (NP 1016, HI 653). HH090/690/01 20.5.96 EXAM'D 26.4.96 IN 515209.8N, 013533.8E [OGB] USING DGPS. LEAST E/S DEPTH 18.9MTRS ON SIDE OF SANDWAVE IN SANDWAVE FIELD. NO SCOUR. NO DCS3 HT. APPEARS IN TWO PARTS, 40MTRS BY 8MTRS, LYING 070/250 DEGS AND 15MTRS BY 5MTRS. LIES 60MTRS TO W OF THE MAIN BODY. NO MAGNETIC ANOMALY. INS AS FOUL. (NP 1016, HI 690). BR STD. HH090/742/01 19.5.97 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. (NP 1016, HI 742). HH090/768/01 6.7.98 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. (NP 1016, HI 768). HH090/851/01 8.7.99 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. NO MAGNETIC ANOMALY, MODERATE SONAR CONTACT. GEN DEPTH NOW 19MTRS. (NP 1016, HI 851). NCA. HH090/885/01 2.6.00 LOCATED, NOT EXAMINED. (NP 1016, HI 885). NCA. HH090/935/01 7.6.01 NOT LOCATED BY DCS3, MAGNETOMETER OR E/S. GEN DEPTH 20MTRS. (NP 1016, HI 935). NCA. HH090/993/01 1.7.02 NOT LOCATED. (NP 1016, HI 993). AMEND ABEY. BR STD. HH091/023/01 2.6.03 LOCATED BY E/S ONLY. IN AREA OF SANDWAVES. (NP 1016, HI 1023). AMENDED LIVE. INS FOUL. BR STD. HH091/078/01 20.1.05 EXAM'D 22.6.05 IN 5152.193N, 0135.468E [WGD] USING DGPS. LEAST M/B DEPTH 19.7 IN GEN DEPTH 20.7MTRS. NO SCOUR. LENGTH 23MTRS, WIDTH 23MTRS, HT 1MTRS. NO MAGNETIC ANOMALY. DEEPER THAN NEARBY WKS. RETAIN AS FOUL. (NP 1016, HI 1078). SMALL AREA OF WRECKAGE. RETAIN FOUL IN REVISED POSN. BR STD. HH091/116/01 15.12.05 EXAM'D 4.7.05 IN 5152.191N, 0135.469E [WGD] USING DGPS. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.57 IN GEN DEPTH 20.5MTRS. NO SCOUR. LENGTH 40MTRS, WIDTH 15MTRS, HT 2MTRS. LIES 080/260 DEGS. POOR MAGNETIC ANOMALY. SOME DEBRIS EXTENDS ENE OF THE WK. APPEARS TO BE IN TWO PARTS. (NP 1016, HI 1116). AMEND WK 18.5MTRS IN REVISED POSN. BR STD. HH091/165/01 28.3.07 LOCATED IN LISTED POSN. NFS. (NETSURVEY LTD, HI 1165). NCA. HH091/262/01 5.2.09 LOCATED, NOT EXAM'D. (MARIN MATTEKNIK, HI 1262). NCA. 11.11.10 EXAM'D 8.2010 IN 5152.193N, 0135.471E [WGD] USING DGPS. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.68 IN GEN DEPTH 21MTRS. NO SCOUR. LENGTH 33MTRS, WIDTH 9MTRS, HT 3MTRS. LIES 045/225 DEGS. (MMT, HI 1339). NCA. 12.11.10 LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.70MTRS IN 5152.1930N, 0135.4701E [WGD]. LENGTH 20MTRS, WIDTH 10MTRS. LIES E/W. (MMT, HI 1339, SDC REPROCESSING). NCA. 27.2.13 EXAM'D 13.10.12 IN 5152.193N, 0135.470E [WGD]. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.96 IN GEN DEPTH 21MTRS. NO SCOUR. LENGTH 34.1MTRS, WIDTH 11.1MTRS, HT 2.22MTRS. LIES 095/275 DEGS. STRONG MAGNETIC ANOMALY. APPEARS TO BE IN TWO PARTS AND PARTIALLY BURIED. (NETSURVEY, HI 1398). AMEND WK 18.9MTRS. 17.3.14 LOCATED 5.2.14 IN 5152.193N, 0135.469E [WGD]. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.60 IN GEN DEPTH 20.9MTRS. SCOUR 0.3MTR DEEP LENGTH 16MTRS, WIDTH 8MTRS, HT 2.3MTRS. SCATTERED DEBRIS. (EGS, HI 1433). SLIGHT MAGNETIC ANOMALY. AMEND WK 18.6MTRS. SEP 2014/000153152 1.10.14 EXAM'D 25.1.14 IN 5152.192N, 0135.469E [WGD]. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.62 IN GEN DEPTH 20.8MTRS. NO SCOUR. LENGTH 18.2MTRS, WIDTH 7.5MTRS, HT 2.2MTRS. LIES 045/225 DEGS. MODERATE MAGNETIC ANOMALY. OBJECT LOCATED, OVERALL THE SITE IS MAINLY DEBRIS. (EGS, HI 1459). SINGLE MAIN CONTACT WITH DEBRIS ITEMS TO NW & NE. NCA. SEP 2015/000083469 6.1.16 EXAM'D IN 5152.190N, 0135.470E [WGD]. NFS,(EGS 1483 THAMES ESTUARY RRS). AMEND TO REVISED POSN. SEP 2017/000295266 14.2.18 NOT LOCATED IN M/B DATASET (2017). (EGS, HI 1546). AMEND DEAD. SEP 2019/000006483 16.1.19 EXAM'D IN 5152.194N, 0135.470E [WGD]. LEAST W/C DEPTH 18.87MTRS IN GEN DEPTH 20MTRS, LENGTH 18.65MTRS, WIDTH 6.92MTRS, HT 1.65MTRS, ORIENTATION 088/268DEGS. WRECK APPEARS BROKEN UP. DEBRIS FIELD TO THE NW AND NE, LENGTH 92.25MTRS, TOWARDS 111DEGS. (A-2-SEA SOLUTIONS LTD, HI1614). INS DW 18.8MTRS IN REVISED POSN. SEP 2019/000280195 06.12.19 EXAM'D 10.09.19; IN 5152.192N, 0135.468E [WGD]. LEAST MB DEPTH 18.78MTRS IN GEN DEPTH 20MTRS, LENGTH 36.11MTRS, WIDTH 21.15MTRS, HEIGHT 1.99MTRS, ORIENTATION 058/238DEGS. SCATTERED REMAINS OF WRECK WITH A CLUSTER OF LARGER FEATURES TO THE SOUTH. DEBRIS FIELD TO THE W/NW OF THE MAIN WRECK, LENGTH 39.40MTRS, TOWARDS 292DEGS. (MCA, HI1641). AMEND WK 18.7MTRS IN REVISED POSN. SEP 2020/000281029 20.11.20 EXAM'D 10.10.20; IN 5152.193N, 0135.471E [WGD]. LEAST MB DEPTH 18.8MTRS IN GEN DEPTH 20MTRS. (A-2-SEA, HI1691). NFS. AMEND DW IN REVISED POSN. RSDRA2021000312387 08.12.2021 NOT LOCATED IN M/B DATASET 2021. NOT OBSERVED IN MAINLINE BATHYMETRY. [HI1739 - TE3A SUNK FOCUSED, A-2-SEA SOLUTIONS LTD]. AMEND DEAD. RSDRA2025000235845 25.04.25 WK FOUND IN REVISED POSITION 5152.19186N, 00135.46858E [WGD]. LOCATED IN M/B SURVEY 2025. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.81MTRS IN GEN DEPTH 20.6MTRS. LENGTH 6.19MTRS, WIDTH 5.16MTRS, APPROX HT 1.73MTRS. NFS. (NJORD SURVEY, H102_HI1896_001). AMEND LIVE, RETAIN PREVIOUS DEPTH 18.7MTRS IN REVISED POSITION. RSDRA2025000337797 09.07.2025 EXAM'D 21.04.2025; LOCATED IN 5152.192N, 00135.469E [WGD]. LEAST M/B DEPTH 18.77MTRS IN GEN DEPTH 20MTRS. LENGTH 6.63MTRS, WIDTH 5.86MTRS, HT 1.9MTRS, ORIENTATION 24DEGS. SCOUR LENGTH 25MTRS, WIDTH 8MTRS, DEPTH 0.8MTRS, ORIENTATION 52DEGS. DEBRIS FIELD LENGTH 28MTRS, ORIENTATION 67DEGS. SHIPWRECK CONSISTING OF SCATTERED DEBRIS ON LOCATION OF PREVIOUSLY LISTED DEAD WRECK. (NJORD SURVEY AB, HI1896-H525-14569). RETAIN DW 18.7MTRS. |
| Last Amended Date | Jul 10, 2025 |
Circumstances of loss
BUILT IN 1915 BY HAWTHORN & CO LTD, LEITH. HIRED AS MINESWEEPER IN 1915. ONE BOILER, TRIPLE EXPANSION ENGINE OF 57HP, SINGLE SHAFT. MINED.
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