Thistleroy Wreck

General Comments

SURVEY REQUIREMENT COMMENTS FULL BOTTOM COVERAGE FOR A MINIMUM OF 200 METERS IS REQUIRED ì FOR THE ENTIRE SEARCH AREA EVEN IF VESSEL IS DISCOVERED EARLY IN ì INVESTIGATION. HISTORY UNKNOWN SOURCE--SUBM WRECK AND BUOY APPEARS ON FIRST STANDARD ì OF CHART 11544 IN 1915 (PREVIOUSLY NUMBERED CHART 1233, WHICH ì SUPERSEDED CANCELED CHART 146). WRECK POSITION HAS BEEN SCALED FROM ì THE MICROFILMED STD IN LAT 34-33-39N, LONG 76-31-54W. H3374/1912--WRECK USED AS TOPO SIGNAL "NEW" AND DESCRIBED IN ì THE DR AS...SMOKE STACK OF LARGE TRAMP STEAMER. THE VESSEL SHOWS ì WELL, AND PARTS OF HER ARE LIABLE TO REMAIN AS A MARK FOR ì YEARS.... POSITION GIVEN AS LAT 34-33-25.4N, LONG 76-31-38W, ì WHICH IS ONLY SLIGHTLY OFF A SCALED POSITION. THIS WRECK DID NOT ì APPEAR ON THE CHART UNTIL THE 1916 EDITION. LHNM25/1916(1010)--THISTLEROY WRECK BELL BUOY 2, DISCONTINUED. (AT THIS TIME THE WRECK FROM UNKNOWN SOURCE ABOVE WAS ALSO DELETED FROM THE ì NEXT CHART EDITION). CL431/1925--INTEROFFICE CORRESPONDENCE-DOC & COE; PRIVATE ì REQUEST OF DOC TO INVESTIGATE THE REMOVAL OF THE WRECK "THISTLEROY" ì IN 1925. A LIGHTHOUSE TENDER WAS DIRECTED AND LOCATED A WRECK ON ì AUGUST 20, 1925 WITH 3 FEET OVER HER, BUT PROVIDED NO POSITION. A COE LTR ì ADDRESSED THIS WRECK AS THE "THISTLEROY"...A LARGE ENGLISH TRAMP ì STEAMER OF 5000 TONS, WITH A HULL OF STEEL.... THE WRECK WAS ì REAPPLIED TO THE CHART (AT THE POSITION OF THE UNKNOWN SOURCE ì ABOVE). LHNM40/1925(10/2/25)--(1775); THISTLEROY REAPPLIED TO CHART. LHNM39/1926(9/24/26)--(1565); REFERENCE NM40/1926(10/2/26)--(3447); BUOY ESTABLISHED. H4802/1928--SUBM WRECK SYMBOL SHOWN ON SMOOTH SHEET "WRECK BARES ì AT EXTREME LOW WATER". CONFUSION WITH THE FIELD/VERIFIER/AND ì REVIEW REPORTS IS APPARENT. THE POSITION OF THE WRECK HAS BEEN ì SCALED FROM THE SURVEY IN LAT 34-33-22.7N, LONG 76-31-37.2W BY ì N/CS31, THIS POSITION IS APPROXIMATLY 100M SOUTH OF THE POSITION ì OF THE POSITION PROVIDED IN THE DR WHICH IS LAT 34-33-24N, LONG ì 76-31-37.2W. NM25/1947(6/21/47)--(3058); -NONEXISTENCE OF WRECK-BUOY MOVED- ì THE WRECK CHARTED ABOUT 3.7 MILES 186 DEG. FROM CAPE LOOKOUT ì LIGHT NO LONGER EXISTS AND WILL BE EXPUNGED FROM THE CHARTS. ì (THIS IS THE WRECK THAT WAS REAPPLIED IN 1925). ì THISTLEROY WRECK BUOY HAS BEEN MOVED AND REESTABLISHED ABOUT 4 ì MILES 180 DEG 15 MIN FROM CAPE LOOKOUT LIGHT TO MARK THE WRECK ì CHARTED CLOSE NORTHWESTWARD. THE WRECK HAS A DEPTH OF ABOUT 4 FT ì OVER IT. (N/CS31 CANNOT DETERMINE THE BASIS FOR REMOVAL OF THE ì WRECK OR WHERE THE DEPTH ORIGINATES, UNLESS THEY REVIEWED THE ì 1925 DATA AND USED THE POSITIONING FROM SURVEY H3374/1912 AND ì COMBINED IT WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE TENDER WORK DONE IN 1925. ANOTHER ì THEORY IS THAT IT WAS REMOVED THROUGH A NAVY WRECK LIST ì APPLICATION). CL355/1955--USC&GS PARKER-LTR DTD 4/25/55; THE SUNKEN WRECK CHARTED IN LAT ì 34-33-24N, LONG 76-31-36W, WAS LOCATED AT LAT 34-33-22.2W, LONG 76-31-36W. A ì FOUR FOOT POLE SOUNDING WAS OBTAINED ON THE EAST END, A RED-BLACK ì NUN BUOY MARKED THE WEST END. THE WRECK DOES NOT EXCEED 10 METERS IN LENGTH. BP52608--BOAT SHEET OF H8253/1955; REFERENCE. H8253/1955--REVIEWED 8/60; SUBM WRECK 4FT AT MLLW, POSITION ì GIVEN ON THIS METAL WRECK IN LAT 34-33-25.8N, LONG ì 76-31-39W(NAD27). WRECK LIES IN NW BY SE DIRECTION (THIS IS THE ì DIRECTION AS SHOWN ON H4802/1928 HOWEVER APPROX 100 METERS NORTH. ì THE WRECK FALLS IN THE SAME POSITION AS SHOWN ON H3374/1912, WHICH MAKES THE 1928 POSITION SUSPICIOUS). H9464/1974--SEARCH AREA WAS DEVELOPED WITH 50 METER L/S WITH NO ì INDICATION OF THE WRECK. THE WRECK WAS NOT CONSIDERED DISPROVED ì AND CARRIED FORWARD. SURROUNDING DEPTHS ARE 9 T0 10 FEET. DESCRIPTION **** THE USCG LIGHT LIST CARRIED THE "CAPE LOOKOUT SLOUGH WRECK BUOY-MARKS WRECK OF "THISTLEROY" UNTIL 1970, THEN REVISED NAME AND POSITION. 24 NO.666; POSITION ACCURACY WITHIN 1 MILE; LEAST DEPTH 4 FT.; LOCATED 5/21/47, POSITION GIVEN AS LAT 34-33-22N, LONG 76-31-36W. (THIS DATA IS PROBABLY KEYED TO NM25/1947). 223 WRECK OF THISTLEROY LIES 110YDS SOUTHWARD OF LOOKOUT BIGHT WRECK POINT LIGHT. H.O. NO.360 (PRE-1945 NUMBER) NOT CARRIED ON 5TH ND WRECK LIST. ONLY FEW FEET OF WATER AND IF WRECK IS THERE IT IS SANDED OVER. POSITION NO.53.1. POSWITION GIVEN IN LAT 34/37/10N, LONG 76/32/37W. **** AWOIS ITEM #2833 HAS BEEN MERGED INTO #600, THEN DELETED FROM THE FILE. 230 NO.36132 (UPDATED 4/98 RWD)